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Topic: A call to the chosen

As much as I've taken part... by: zenlightened_one (29/M/Langley, BC, Canada) 11/2/99 1:02 am
Msg: 39 of 217
...in this craziness, I couldn't agree with you more! May we ALL take a few steps back, and let out a good belly-laugh, before the seriousness of our opinions consumes us all, and makes this message board into a virtual battlefield, full of bitter people, who have ceased to remember that we are all seeking answers for ourselves. This world is too intelligent, as a whole, to fall back into our 'warring' natures, from which we all seek to rise out of. I commend you, avatarmundi, for that uplifting message, which has, indeed, brought me back to my center. Thank you, and, I have sent my 'little self' on vacation, thanks to your wonderfully candid remarks.
Kudos, avatarmundi!

Posted as a reply to: Msg 37 by avatarmundi

avatar... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 11/2/99 10:51 am
Msg: 40 of 217
you would think a zen student would be more peaceful and understanding... but then again he believes himself still a student... and i also recall him saying something in his last post that he would not post again... perhaps he truly is a curious little thing eh? peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 39 by zenlightened_one

Maybe... by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/2/99 11:40 am
Msg: 41 of 217
we've got someone nice to play with! Wouldn't that be fun! Let's share the sand-box as long as he don't poop in it! Too many broken people out there who forget to laugh...they're wearing black and slowly walking to their graves. Pax Eternum est...

Posted as a reply to: Msg 40 by jesjka

Crazy is good... by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/2/99 12:00 pm
Msg: 42 of 217
keeps the arrogance of sanity away. It takes guts to let oneself to be corrected without protest. Nice guts! I like courage...but I like a good joke better! Know any?

Posted as a reply to: Msg 39 by zenlightened_one

What Do You Think? by: murphynson 11/2/99 5:43 pm
Msg: 43 of 217
What do you think about this? What would you do? Suppose you have a friend, a very close friend. Someone who you have spent past lives with. What if that friend did or didn't do something that was expected, or considerate...something not neccesarily bad, but wrong, and not of that person's nature. What if you couldn't reach that person? What would you do? What would your response be. Do you get angry and get even, or do you love, forgive and let go? Having trouble with myself and my own response. Have responded in a way that 'is not myself.' I need other's insights.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 42 by avatarmundi

jesjka, my apologies... by: zenlightened_one (30/M/Vancouver, Canada) 11/2/99 6:31 pm
Msg: 44 of 217
...to you, as, when I wrote that I would not post you again, I meant I would not post...to YOU. However, as I have sent my 'little self', away(for now, anyhow!), it gives me a chance to apologize for being a little vitriolic, in my first few posts...it was not from the soul, just my surface- self, lashing back at what I saw, to be someone who was attacking those for their beliefs, with self-righteousness. Little did I realize, that in turn, I, too, had attacked you the same way. It did not come from my 'center'...by the way, I promise not to 'poop', in the sandbox!LOL P.S., I also apologize for that little 'Unabomber' comment, that I sent out, somewhat prematurely, to you. With your comments, "'Your' world of technology and laws...", you did sound, initially, like you shared his(Unabomber) views. If I am mistaken, then I am truly sorry. In a way, I had put a neat little label on you, without having all the facts straight. Now, let us get to some CONstructive banter, shall we? Enough of the damning of others beliefs. It must stop somewhere, no?

Posted as a reply to: Msg 40 by jesjka

zen... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 11/3/99 8:25 am
Msg: 45 of 217
there is no need to apologize... we all act rash and brash and tend to bash others when our views conflict... and i am assuming it was your birthday recently as you are not 29 any longer... so if it was... happy birthday... peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 44 by zenlightened_one

murphy... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 11/3/99 8:30 am
Msg: 46 of 217
first there is know right or wrong in life... and second love conquers all... there is no need to get even with anyone... sometimes we get angry but it is ok as long as we do not destroy in our anger... my advice is simply let it go and understand that everything is as it should be... everything is alright... then you can look back on the situation... what ever it may be and understand the lesson which is being taught... peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 43 by murphynson

murphynson by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/3/99 11:56 am
Msg: 47 of 217
this one cannot give adequate advice on this matter...however forgiveness releases not only the one you have a problem with, but you as well. Initial anger is normal, but transmute and transform the energy of anger into a motivation for positive, constructive change. Revenge is seldom useful. Remember to stay centered, as you will less likely to be blown about by the winds of passion, and thereby make hasty, illadvised decisions. Hold to your highest ideals and standards of behaviour.
I hope this helps a little. Peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 43 by murphynson

zenlight... by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/3/99 12:06 pm
Msg: 48 of 217
Looks like you've been doing your homework and know something. Your recent posts have been a pleasure to see. Thank-you! But do you know any good jokes? Anything funny? Funny insights?
Nothing funny smelling!

Posted as a reply to: Msg 44 by zenlightened_one

jesjka... by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/3/99 12:11 pm
Msg: 49 of 217
I like zenlight, can we keep him? Please? :)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 45 by jesjka

The conflict is within by: renee_melder (31/F/Baton Rouge, LA) 11/3/99 12:29 pm
Msg: 50 of 217
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We all act outside our nature at times. Perhaps he/she was "out of balance" and reacting to that. Can you help him/her find that balance?

<< What if you couldn't reach that person? What would you do?>>

If you cannot reach him/her, there is nothing you can do butt offer support. Perhaps this is his/her lesson to learn the hard way.

<< What would your response be. Do you get angry and get even, or do you love, forgive and let go?>>

There is no point in getting angry and getting even. IMO, we are all one. If you hurt another, you are hurting yourself. It's like cutting off your own hand because it stole. This other person is part of your whole. Hurting him/her can only be detrimental to yourself. If you can help, do so. If you can't, just offer support and let him/her walk his/her own path.

<< Having trouble with myself and my own response. Have responded in a way that 'is not myself.' I need other's insights. >>

?? Are you hurt/betrayed and cannot decide how to handle it? Meditation helps me a lot. It helps me to clear my mind of all the "emotion" attached to an issue and actually map out a course. Or, have you already responded and regret the response? If so, it is important to take responsibility for your actions. Without details, though, I'm just guessing what you mean.

Good luck !! =)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 43 by murphynson

Zenlight by: renee_melder (31/F/Baton Rouge, LA) 11/3/99 12:36 pm
Msg: 51 of 217
<<< I like zenlight, can we keep him? Please? :)>>>

Only if you promise to feed him, give him water, take him out for walks, excercise him, clean up after him .....

Posted as a reply to: Msg 49 by avatarmundi

I suppose you want me to by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/3/99 2:54 pm
Msg: 52 of 217
pay for his shots and neutering next.
Sorry zenlite! :)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 51 by renee_melder

For Adoption: by: zenlightened_one (30/M/Vancouver, Canada) 11/3/99 7:11 pm
Msg: 53 of 217
Upgraded, older model, male zenlightened_one. Low maintenance, has had all shots, toilet-trained, performs SOME tricks, loves people, free to good message board.
Not one offer will be taken seriously.
(Hee hee!)Talk with you all, soon. :)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 52 by avatarmun

s? by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/3/99 7:58 pm
Msg: 54 of 217
Yeah! like shwing! You know, the Dolly Parton, Pamela Anderson, majorly babelicious kind who......Oops! sorry I had to put him back in his cage....not P.C. enough and damages the furniture too much.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 53 by zenlightened_one

exactly by: kaytee36 (36/F/New Zealand) 11/6/99 11:38 pm
Msg: 55 of 217
i couldn't have said it better myself...

Posted as a reply to: Msg 37 by avatarmundi

Path to where? by: hdjs4 (44/M/Indianapolis) 11/7/99 10:37 am
Msg: 56 of 217
Dear jesjka,
I read your recent email. Sorry you found my website boring. I do the best I can, you know. I have read your postings on this message board, checked out your profile and also the Spiritweb website you list as a cool link. It sounds like you've become involved in a mish-mash of New Age spiritism and "feel-good" pop self-esteem boosting. Please don't take this personally, I really don't mean it to be, but you cannot logically believe in everything. Everything cannot be true. For one spiritual path to be true, some others must be false, since they contradict each other. You said in one post that you believed in Jesus and Bhudda. Well, Jesus said that he was the Son of God, the Messiah. He said that he was the ONLY way to the father. He said that NO ONE comes to the father except through him. He claimed to have been with the Father from eternity. He said unless a person is born again of the spirit, he cannot see the Kingdom of God. Anyone who makes claims like this is either telling the truth (which I believe he was, that is why I'm a Christian) or he is the most dangerous, deluded madman the world has ever known. So you cannot say that you believe in Jesus and Bhudda. If Jesus is for real, his teachings require that you reject the claims of Bhudda and serve the one, real, living creator -the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I hope you do not take offense at this, I just want to make a point that I think is very important. There is a spiritual battle going on for our souls, and conversations like this are a part of that struggle. For the benefit of any others reading who might take a chance on being bored, please check out my website at
http://onpurpose.faithweb.com/
to see where I am coming from. Yes, I am a born-again Christian, but I am not into putting anyone down - I would just like to stimulate discussion that might help a seeking soul find the love and peace of God.
Please spare me the "Bible-thumping bigot" slurs and let's have an intelligent, honest, respectful discussion.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 20 by jesjka

I don't how the rest of you feel but.. by: spiritdancer12 11/7/99 11:29 am
Msg: 57 of 217
Hasn't anyone ever told you to allow people to explore all options? Didn't you at one time? Also, you stated "Please spare me the "Bible-thumping bigot" slurs..." Sounds to me that YOU needed to address this on a public forum?! I don't appreciate the IN YOUR FACE approach... I respect everyones beliefs. Buddhist views are powerful and intriging and so is Christianity. Some people do not NEED to conform to ONE way of thinking. Cramming stuff down someones throat is abuse in my book.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 56 by hdjs4

Open discussion? by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/7/99 5:49 pm
Msg: 58 of 217
But, only if you get to always be right, and we get to be wrong-headed sinners who need what you're selling. Did I get that answer right?
Perhaps you mean well, but your 'product' has
been examined by some of us and found to be
lacking, so please, peddle it somewhere else.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 56 by hdjs4

Christ... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 11/7/99 5:53 pm
Msg: 59 of 217
the last time someone came marching along and doing things outside of the logical and tradional way of the modern thinking public... we nailed him to a cross... case closed.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 56 by hdjs4

do you mean... by: daisyforaday (43/F/Steep Falls, ME) 11/7/99 6:38 pm
Msg: 60 of 217
learn all that is available to learn, then sift it through for what speaks of truth. when a truth speaks, seek it further.

there is no need to cram it down another person't throat, just dare to say that you are finding it. and dare to beieve they will follow.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 57 by spiritdancer12