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Who is the Son of God?
by: cactusjack76
1/18/99 11:12 am
Msg: 1 of 254
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that
those who believe in him shall not perish but, have eternal life." This
is part of a statement which has dominated much of Western thought for
centuries and, to many it has such a powerful impact that to doubt it is
considered sacrilege. It does however, beg at least two questions. They
are,
1)Who is the son of God? and,
2)For what reason was he given?
This posting will deal mainly with the first of these questions.
Historically it has been somewhat believable for people to say that
Jesus had no human father and, that he was in fact the product of the seed
of God planted in Mary's womb. What however, is the seed of God? Ancient
peoples would not have given this a thought but, in modern times mankind
has come to learn that seeds from which living things grow contain genetic
material. In fact, they contain the genetic blueprint for that life form
which will grow from them. Therefore, if one says that Jesus was the one
and only Son of God by virtue of being the product of God's seed, then
it follows that one is saying that Jesus was made from God's genetic material.
Is there such a thing as devine DNA? I for one refuse to believe that God,
or that which is devine, can be defined by a genetic code. I do believe
that God has created genetic codes but, not that God can be created by
a genetic code.
The truth is that we are all God's "children" and, that which is devine
lives within us all. By the Grace of God, Jesus came to a state of being
in which his innate devinity was no longer obscured by human ignorance.
His was the highest state to which we may aspire but, he has not been the
only one to attain it. His purpose and, the purpose of others like him
has been to "save" mankind from living in ignorance of the fact that our
true self is devine eternal spirit and, that love is the greatest key to
understanding.
cactusjack76
4/16/99 7:31 pm
Msg: 39 of 254
God lives within each of us. No one and, nothing exists separate from
God. Yeshu (Jesus is only a translation of his name) lived as a perfect
expresion of mankind's true devine nature but, he was not the only Son
of God. We are all God's children. There is no salvation through proxy.
All is as pleases God, for God is utterly omnipotent. The nature of God,
is perfect love and peace and, when we leave this world of pain, God's
eternal truths are clear.
What is needed in this world is a massive change. People need to realise
that we are all equally expressions of God. God is all that is and, we
are each a part of that whole. When people accept that truth, then a new
age may come upon this planet. Until that time, the old beliefs of "us
versus them" and "good versus evil" will continue to reap and sow only
the same vile selfish consequences which humankind has know for the past
2000 years and beyond.
There will be no second coming of "Jesus" which will set the world
right. The spirit which lived within the man is the same as the spirit
which lives within us all. The true "second coming" will occur when mankind
as a whole (or as a majority) finds that the Living God lives within themselves.
That is the ultimate truth. Concepts of damnation and Hell are only exprssions
of evil which will end when truth is known and accepted. No soul is ever
lost. To say otherwise is to degrade the power and glory of the allmighty
Lord. Yeshu came to lead souls to God. If you wish to learn more of the
work of salvation in this world, read "Autobiography of a Yogi" or, "Conversations
with God". There are other expressions of the "Truth" but these are especially
clear. God bless us everyone!!
Dear CatusJack, Dear Brother......
by: Zaotom (49/M/Sonoma, CA)
4/17/99 11:33 am
Msg: 41 of 254
.....God Bless you!......our Hearts are forever joined!
With Love and Brotherhood,
Zao
Brother Cactusjack..
by: Zaotom (49/M/Sonoma, CA)
4/23/99 8:30 pm
Msg: 59 of 254
....your kind words are VERY meaningful to me......just now as I was
'checking in on the boards' in my mind I was lamenting how frustrating
it is at times here....you come here thinking that by the nature of the
format that there would be a considerable amount of goodwill, intelligence,
and mutuality in conversing.....yet so many times it becomes actully painful...by
this I mean at times I really 'hurt for mankind'....I will never give up
on my beliefs in the fundamental goodness of our Heritage and Destiny...but
oh at times it seems so obscure.......and then.....bingo!...I find words
from a Heart like yours........thank you....for myself.....for all Mankind.
And a glorious weekend for you too..!
Blessings,
Zao
TRUTH
by: Zaotom (49/M/Sonoma, CA)
4/25/99 10:50 am
Msg: 66 of 254
As long as human beings are merely 'pointers' toward their beliefs
rather than LIVING ILLUSTRATIONS of those beliefs
there will be no Peace amoung persons....for they will have 'given
themselvs up' to SEPERATION instead of BEING the
Will of God.
In Brotherhood,
Zao
Dear Catusjack.....
by: Zaotom (49/M/Sonoma, CA)
4/29/99 7:14 pm
Msg: 80 of 254
....again I find my self thanking you for sharing your Heart...of course,
that is excatly what 'Hearts' are for!......The nuances of this topic will
probably be obscured from the 'destiny' of many readers...but suffice to
say, the Destiny of each of us is very much tied to your topic....for indeed...we
all are sons and daughters of God....the Truth of this is much more than
just symbolic or anologous....for as such, we are beneficiaries of our
Heritage....and according to the Wisdom that any of us as individuals are
able to 'cordinate' our will to the Devine Will we also are 'co-creators'
with our Father. Especially in this regard is the matter of DNA of the
most profound and subtle importance.......for when our wills are 'in sync'
with the Devine...we EVOLVE DNA.............the are many 'side tracks'
to this topic...and I wish to avoid digression into their endless depths....but
each of us should aspire to be aware of how important our individual acts
are in this process....it is by the INDIVIDUAL choice of EACH person that
Creation ASCENDS:
To Zao
by: cactusjack76
5/1/99 3:29 pm
Msg: 84 of 254
May God bless you always brother Zao,
Thanks for your last posting it was both refreshing and, inspiring.
I can identify with what you wrote because, it resonates with that which
I hold dear. This is a world of unlimited possibilities and, those possibilities
are shaped by the thoughts and beliefs of we who live here. The greatest
of the paths before us are those which involve a higher understanding of
the true nature of this universe and its maker.
The more humanity is attuned to the presence of God in all things (especially
within ourselves), the more heavenly will be our existence. If there is
any duty we have to our fellow people it is first and foremost to help
spread the awareness of God's all pervading love and power. If there is
anything I want for this world, it is for people to feel God's presence
and love within themselves and those around them. I want a new age to come
on this planet. I want for hatred, cruelty, greed and all that goes with
them to exist only as history. In oder for that to happen though, people
must become aware that the possibility even exists. Old ways of thinking
which give credence to vengence, damnation, righteous anger, jealousy and
the like need to be left to the history from which they came. In their
place will be knowledge of God's eternal grace and, our true place in the
eternal landscape. That is the knowledge which will give birth to our greatest
aspirations. May your part here always be a joy to you and yours Zao!
Dear Catusjack...
by: Zaotom (49/M/Sonoma, CA) 5/1/99 5:28 pm
Msg: 85 of 254
..your interesting remarks prompt me to go just a little further in
the DNA subject...........beyond the 'spiritual myths' of Man's varying
cultures....as different and similar as they are....there is much...very
much about the earilest times in human evolution that is poorly understood
within the context of these 'myths' ....OR by 'scientific' insights. To
simplify a 'complicated' set of circumstances...these myths & science
CROSS over one another regarding certain issues. The 'Fall' myth is coordilated
to the science of DNA in that at a time in our remote past human DNA was
'manipulated' to intergrate what was and is the equivelant of a chromozone
of 'fear.' This simple (and willful) minipulation of our natures was not
'OUR' doing...and from that day to the present it has been 'used' as a
menas of 'power'....it's the original 'divide & conquer' strategy.
It has taken the human race a long painful and sorrowful evolution to approach
a time in our development where the truth of this matter can be known AND
CORRECTED......this is that Moment...this IS the moment of a Dawn...a New
Age.
'Fear' can be 'manipulated out' of our DNA...the ability to do so IS
part of the Heritage that is ours from the Father. It is activated by FREEWILL......'CHOOSING'
to TRUST in Him......the 'power' it affords will utterly 'vanquish' those
willful forces (still present) that attempted so long ago to keep Humanity
'seperate' from itself...and it's Heritage...........
'Resisting' the effects of 'fear'...by 'fighting back'...by meeting
'force with force'....will not..CANNOT work...indeed, such reactions REINFORCE
the 'fear' element.........it is in NON-REISITENCE....it is in GOODWILL....it
is in COMPASSION....and FORBEARENCE....in T R U S T ....that we 'take back'
our Heritage......WE REPLACE the 'fear' gene with the 'TRUST' gene..........
Many will NEVER understand this...but it is changing..and quickly....there
is great reason for Hope...there are so many now living that understand...so
many wonderful YOUNG persons that have already been paritialy 'healed'...and
they are DRAWN toward furhtering the process. The young 'Relkov' is (I
hope & believe) and example...he does not yet fully understand....but
I TRUST that he will. (He actually thinks I am his antagonist...hehehe.....sometime
he will know.)
Catus...I hope my 'radical thoughts' do not shake you......this is the
time for CONNECTING.....BRIDGING....BUILDING on Mutualites....not squabbling
or debating 'nuances'....the 'beliefs' any person holds are not nearly
so important as that PERSON....
God's Blessing and Goodwill to you,
Zao
The above postings sent to me via Sucahra. Thank you dear lady.
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